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Labour says Sunak should apologise for lying 12 times about its tax plans in ITV debate

Labour is doubling down on its claim (see 9.05am) that Rishi Sunak lied about its tax plans in the debate last night.

Darren Jones, the shadow deputy chief secretary to the Treasury, who obtained the Treasury letter confirming that the figure quoted by Sunak was not authorised by civil servants as he claimed (see 9.26am), said Sunak should apologise. He posted this on X.

In response to my letter, civil servants confirmed they had told Tory ministers they were not allowed to say their dodgy attacks on Labour were independently done by civil servants.

Last night Rishi Sunak did it anyway.

He lied to the British people.

He must apologise.

In response to my letter, civil servants confirmed they had told Tory ministers they were not allowed to say their dodgy attacks on Labour were independently done by civil servants.

Last night Rishi Sunak did it anyway.

He lied to the British people.

He must apologise. pic.twitter.com/61bXB1Towu

— Darren Jones (@darrenpjones) June 5, 2024

And Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, told broadcasters that Sunak lied repeatedly. She said:

Rishi Sunak lied 12 times in the debate last night about Labour’s tax plans. The truth is it’s the Conservatives who have taken the tax burden to the highest it’s been in 70 years. That is the Conservatives’ record and their legacy.

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MSs debate motion of no confidence in Welsh first minister Vaughan Gething

In Cardiff members of the senedd (MSs) are now debating the motion of no confidence in Vaughan Gething, the relatively new Labour first minister.

Here is the text of the motion, tabled by the Conservatives.

To propose that the senedd:

1. Recognises the genuine public concern over the first minister accepting a £200,000 donation for his Labour leadership campaign from a company owned by an individual who has two environmental criminal convictions, and regrets the poor judgement shown by the first minister in accepting this donation, and his failure to repay it.

2. Regrets the publication of Welsh government ministerial messages where the first minister states his intention to delete messages that could have later been helpful to the Covid inquiry in its deliberations around decision making at the time of the Covid pandemic, despite the first minister telling the UK Covid inquiry that he didn’t delete any messages.

3. Notes the dismissal by the first minister of the minister for social partnership from his government, regrets that the first minister is unwilling to publish his supporting evidence for the dismissal, and notes the former minister for social partnership’s strong denial of the accusations levelled against her.

4. For the above reasons, has no confidence in the first minister.

There is a live feed here.

According to Ruth Mosalski, who is running a good live blog of the proceedings at WalesOnline, at one point Gething (who has not spoken yet) was in tears.

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More than 80,000 migrants have arrived in the UK after crossing the Channel since the government struck the Rwanda deal over two years ago, PA Media reports. PA says:

The latest crossings also mean more than 125,000 migrants have made the journey in the last six-and-a-half years as the recent crisis unfolded.

The tally since Rishi Sunak became prime minister is edging closer to 50,000 and the number arriving since the election was called is nearing 1,000.

The Rwanda agreement signed by then home secretary Priti Patel on April 14 2022 – which she described as a “world-first” – paved the way for migrants to be handed a one-way ticket to the east African nation if they were deemed to have arrived in the UK illegally.

But the plan has been beset with difficulties ever since and stalled amid a string of legal challenges.

Some 80,109 migrants have been recorded arriving in the UK after crossing the Channel between April 15 2022 and June 4 2024, according to a PA analysis of government figures.

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Costas Milas, a professor of management at Liverpool University, has sent me this explanation for why Rishi Sunak and the Tories will have been so keen to get the £2,000 Labour tax rise allegation into the media, even though it is widely being dismissed as implausible. He says:

Tory strategists are following ancient Greek philosopher and mathematician Pythagoras who famously said “Number rules the universe”. The estimated number is highly controversial but effective. This is because:

1) It is a fairly high and easy number for voters to remember;

2) Voters will most likely think that even half of this figure (in case Tories have over-estimated the tax rises) is still worryingly high;

3) It will probably be very difficult to either confirm or reject the £2,000 tax claim because different economic assumptions lead to different numerical conclusions.

The bottom line is that the £2,000 figure dominates the campaign and puts the Labour party, rightly or wrongly, on the defensive. Quite a similar tactic to the discredited “We send to the EU £350m per week” slogan used by Vote Leave during the EU referendum.

In 1992 a Tory “tax bombshell claim” about the Labour party helped John Major win a surprise election victory. On that occasion the Tories were alleging that Labour would put up taxes by £1,250 a year for every family.

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Local Tories protest over plan to impose party chair Richard Holden as candidate in Basildon

The leader of Basildon council’s Conservative group has said he will not campaign for national Tory chairman Richard Holden, who is set to become the area’s parliamentary candidate, PA Media reports. PA says:

Andrew Baggott, who leads the Conservative group on the council, confirmed Holden, until recently the MP for North West Durham, was the sole candidate on a list for the Basildon constituency presented to the local Conservative association by the party’s head office.

Baggott said: “They have given no choice of candidate to the association, no choice of candidate to the membership. They have shown complete disrespect and arrogance to all the party volunteers, all the party members, hardworking Conservatives in this borough. They are shameful.”

He added: “They are lacking in integrity, honour, and these are the things that the public looks for in the people they want to run this country.”

The Conservative councillor said association members were “exploring” options to fight the decision, adding: “Of course we are running out of time, because the nominations have to be in by 4pm on Friday. We have to organise people. It is deliberately being left to the last minute to prevent any action being able to be taken.”

Asked by PA if he would campaign for Holden, he said: “Absolutely not. Sorry, I will be campaigning for Stephen Metcalfe in the neighbouring authority. I will be campaigning for Mark Francois. I will not be campaigning for somebody that is being imposed upon us.”

Holden’s old seat was abolished in the boundary review.

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And talking of getting Tory proposals analysed (see 2.43pm), Fraser Nelson, editor of the Spectator (which generally supports the Conservatives, but not slavishly) has published a blog pointing out that, if you look at how the tax burden is set to rise over the next four years, and then convert that into a tax increase per household figure using the same four-year cumulative counting method used by the Tories when costing Labour’s plans (see 11.51am, point 3), then you wil find the Tories are raising taxes by £3,000 per household.

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Emily Thornberry, the shadow attorney general, told the World at One that she would like to see Labour follow Gus O’Donnell’s advice (see 1.48pm) and stop civil servants being asked to cost opposition policies. She said:

This has so undermined the office of prime minister …

If we’re going to waste public money on this, why don’t they spend a bit of public money getting their own promises analysed by the Treasury?

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The Labour party is not holding back on its social media advertising today.

Rishi Sunak lied to you.

About NHS waiting lists.

About small boats.

About the cost of living.

Just like he did about partygate. pic.twitter.com/CuqAqqBpG4

— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) June 5, 2024

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A reader asks:

Who’s refereeing Friday’s debate? [See 12.34pm.]

It’s the Today presenter, Mishal Husain.

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Corbyn denies betraying Labour as he submits nomination papers to stand against party as independent in Islington

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Jeremy Corbyn has submitted his nomination papers to stand as as an independent in Islington North, in a battle that will put him against the party he once led.

Addressing Keir Starmer’s repeated insistence to voters that the Labour party had changed since he took over from Corbyn, he said:

I don’t think there is any need for him to diss the past or diss his involvement in it. When we came up to the 2019 election, the manifesto and policies and strategies were agreed unanimously by both the shadow cabinet and the NEC.

Change which the UK needed required a challenge to the “economic orthodoxy which he now appears to be embracing”, said Corbyn. He suggested that Keir Starmer – who served in his shadow cabinet – appeared to think that forgetting this past involvement “somehow makes you strong”.

The former MP rejected a suggestion that he was betraying Labour, telling reporters:

Quite the opposite. I was elected as a Labour candidate in 1983. I joined the party when I was 16. I have been in the party my whole life, so the way Islington north has been treated and the way I have been treated is not a good example.

Crowds of supporters had earlier burst into chants of “Oh Jeremy Corbyn” – a familiar one from the peak of his popularity as the Labour leader. Corbyn’s opponents include a Labour candidate in the form of Praful Nargund, a local councillor.

Corbyn said he had not been tempted to join with George Galloway’s Workers Party of Britain – which is seeking to mount a challenge to Labour on the left and on the issue of Gaza – saying there were differences of social policy. “He probably thinks I’m too woke,” he added.

Asked if it was time for voters looking for a left alternative to the government to look beyond Labour, he said:

It’s a bit of both. It’s always been a bit of both. I’ve always been in the Labour party, I’ve now been removed from the Labour party. But I’ve got thousands of friends in the Labour party and many are strongly supporting my campaign.

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Costing opposition policies one of ‘grubbiest’ jobs civil servants ever asked to do, says former cabinet secretary

Gus O’Donnell, a former cabinet secretary, has said that costing opposition policies was one of “the grubbiest processes” he ever had to undertake as a civil servant.

In an interview on Radio 4’s World at One, he said a future government should ban civil servants from being asked to do this work.

He also said Claire Coutinho, the energy secretary, was “wrong” when she claimed this morning that the Treasury had signed off on the figures quoted by Rishi Sunak in the debate last night about the cost of Labour’s plans. (See 12.29pm.)

O’Donnell, who has permanent secretary at the Treasury before becoming cabinet secretary, told the programme:

These costings … are one of the grubbiest processes I’ve ever been involved in, and I hope to goodness that a future government will stop doing this because they’re done by both parties, right? Conservative and Labour have done them, I’ve done them – many of these during my career. I hated every second working on these.

You have to produce costings. Ministers tell you to produce these costings on some assumptions they give you, which are dodgy assumptions designed to make the policy look as bad as possible.

You’re required to do this … The civil service is not acting independently here – they’re acting as a civil service that is required by the existing rules to basically provide costings on an assumption provided to them by the government. It’s totally not independent – it’s just what the government told them to do, and they do it.

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IFS says debate was ‘depressing’ because Sunak and Starmer not being open about need for cuts or tax rises after election

Paul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies thinktank, has said that last night’s Sunak/Starmer debate was “depressing” because there was “no openness about tax and spend”.

Depressing debate last night. No openness about tax and spend. Big direct tax rises are nailed in over next 3 years whoever wins, as allowances and thresholds are frozen. Avoiding big spending cuts while keeping to promises on debt will require more tax rises. https://t.co/kOAQSp1Oy1

— Paul Johnson (@PJTheEconomist) June 5, 2024

Depressing debate last night. No openness about tax and spend. Big direct tax rises are nailed in over next 3 years whoever wins, as allowances and thresholds are frozen. Avoiding big spending cuts while keeping to promises on debt will require more tax rises.

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Scotland’s deputy FM Kate Forbes claims SNP has never been wholly opposed to new oil and gas licences being issued

The SNP is not against new oil and gas licences being issued for the North Sea, Scotland’s deputy first minister Kate Forbes has said.

Under Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf, the SNP government in Edinburgh was opposed to new licences being issued. But it is now having a rethink, and at the STV debate on Monday John Swinney, the new first minister, refused to say whether or not he was in favour of continuing the presumption against new licences being issued.

Speaking to journalists during a campaign visit to Linlithgow, Forbes said:

We’ve been clear that we’re not against new licences per se, but they have to meet a climate compatibility test.

We’re very serious about meeting our climate change targets and obligations. We believe it is one of the most pressing issues of our day.

But we also believe that it needs to be a just transition, which means you can’t leave workers behind and we also need the talent, skills, infrastructure and resources in the industry to reinvest.

Forbest also claimed her party had “never said no” to further licensing, adding:

My position is that it has to be a just transition.

We have to remember that that requires justice to be at the heart, not forgetting the workers like Labour will, with potentially 100,000 jobs at risk.

Ian Murray, Labour’s shadow Scottish secretary, said:

This is laughable from the deputy first minister and goes to show that the SNP is tying itself in knots to explain the mess it is in over the future of oil and gas.

For months the SNP has said one thing to the North East and another to the rest of Scotland – now their hypocrisy and opportunism has caught up with them.

For Kate Forbes to say that the SNP never argued against future oil and gas licences is just false – Humza Yousaf called new oil and gas ‘tantamount to climate change denial’ just months ago.

Kate Forbes during a visit to Maisie Gray Pottery and Crafts in Linlithgow today. Photograph: Rebecca McCurdy/PA
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Rishi Sunak read out the words of an address heard by Allied troops before they embarked on the D-Day landings as he took part in a commemorative event to mark the 80th anniversary of the military operation, PA Media reports. PA says:

The prime minister read out Field Marshal Montgomery’s message to the troops, originally delivered on June 5, 1944 to all those taking part in the landings.

In his contribution to the event in Portsmouth, the PM read out the address, which began: “The time has come to deal the enemy a terrific blow in Western Europe. The blow will be struck by the combined sea, land and air forces of the Allies together constituting one great allied team, under the supreme command of General Eisenhower.

“To us is given the honour of striking a blow for freedom which will live in history; and in the better days that lie ahead men will speak with pride of our doings. We have a great and a righteous cause.”

Rishi Sunak speaking during the UK’s national commemorative event for the 80th anniversary of D-Day. Photograph: Tim Merry/Daily Express/PA
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Health secretary Victoria Atkins says NHS staff should be banned from wearing Palestinian flag badges at work

Victoria Atkins, the health secretary for England, has said NHS staff should be banned from wearing Palestine flag badges at work

In an interview with the Jewish Chronicle, Atkins suggested that doctors or nurses wearing badges or stickers showing the Palestinian flag could lead to some Jewish patients feeling unsafe. She said she was “determined to ensure that Jewish people feel as safe in our healthcare system as they should in the rest of society”.

She went on:

I’ve already been in conversations with NHS England about how we can ensure that uniforms are free political and flags, and this goes across the board. Our hospitals, surgeries and other healthcare settings should not be places where individuals express their political views, but environments that enable people simply to get health care quickly and safely.

Working with NHS England, I know they share these concerns, as do NHS trust executives — and indeed, the overwhelming majority of people who work in the NHS.

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Full Fact, the fact checking organisation, has described the Tory claim that Labour would put up taxes by £2,000 per household as “unreliable”.

The Conservative claim that Labour will raise taxes by £2,000 dominated last night’s #ITVDebate between @RishiSunak and @Keir_Starmer. But this figure is unreliable and based on multiple assumptions.

— Full Fact (@FullFact) June 5, 2024

The Conservative claim that Labour will raise taxes by £2,000 dominated last night’s #ITVDebate between @RishiSunak and @Keir_Starmer. But this figure is unreliable and based on multiple assumptions.

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Increase public sector pay or risk strikes, TUC warns Labour

A Labour government will risk public sector strikes if it fails to increase workers’ pay, the TUC president Matt Wrack has warned. Kiran Stacey has the story.

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Reform UK leader Nigel Farage to participate in Friday’s 7-party election debate, BBC says

The Reform UK leader Nigel Farage will participate in the seven-party BBC election debate on Friday, the corporation has announced.

Penny Mordaunt, leader of the Commons, will represent the Conservative party, and Angela Rayner, the deputy Labour leader, will speak for the official opposition. The Liberal Democrats will be represented by Daisy Cooper, their deputy leader.

They will be joined by Stephen Flynn, the SNP’s leader at Westminster, Carla Denyer, the Green party co-leader, and Rhun ap Iorwerth, leader of Plaid Cymru.

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Union leader accuses ministers of undermining civil servants’ impartiality with claims about cost of Labour policies

Claire Coutinho, the energy secretary, was doing interviews on behalf of the government this morning. She repeated the claim the £2,000 per household in extra taxes figure had come from the Treasury – even though its permanent secretary has said that is not correct. (See 9.26am.) She told Times Radio:

This is something which has been signed off by the permanent secretary of the Treasury. And let me tell you, as someone who used to work in the Treasury, they do not sign up to these dodgy figures.

And it’s really important that the £2,000 of taxes on working families, I thought Keir Starmer was very exposed on that. He could not rule it out. And that’s because that is based on policies that the Labour party .. want to put in place in the next parliament.

Coutinho also said the costings were provided by “independent Treasury civil servants”.

Dave Penman, general secretary of the FDA union, which represents senior civil servants, later said it was wrong to describe them as independent. They were impartial, which is different, he said.

He also suggested ministers were undermining civil service impartiality. He explained:

The HM Treasury permanent secretary being dragged into this political row for his department simply doing its job is a threat to the impartiality of the civil service which ministers rely on, and have a duty to protect under the ministerial code.

Civil servants aren’t independent, they serve the government of the day regardless of which party.

The figures quoted are based on special advisers’ and ministers’ assumptions, which civil servants are then asked to calculate.

This is not a new phenomenon – civil servants have done so for successive governments and it does not represent an independent civil service assessment.

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Anas Sarwar, the Scottish Labour leader, told Sky News this morning that Labour did not expect Rishi Sunak to lie about its tax plans in the debate last night. Asked why Keir Starmer did not mention the Treasury letter saying it was wrong to describe the £2,000 extra in tax per household figure as an official costing for the price of Labour’s plans, even though it was sent to the opposition two days ago, Sarwar replied:

We thought the prime minister would have more integrity than what he showed last night. We didn’t think he was the same ilk as the Liz Truss, the Boris Johnson style politics. But clearly Rishi Sunak wants to go down that same rabbit hole.

Anas Sarwar on Sky News this morning. Photograph: Sky News
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